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Clive Robinson February 6, 2024 3:23 PM

@ Bruce, ALL,

I never did pull a genuine one apart to reverse engineer…

But there were several stories floating around…

One of which was the genuine Furby randomly recorded and played back audio it identified as Speach…

If this is true or not for a genuine Furby I don’t know, it certainly was not for the couple of “knock offs” I did pull appart.

So to this day I’m skeptical for various reasons.

But… The meer thought it could be true did indeed cause a major panic in certain “establishment” places in the UK with secretaries who had a fondness for the mechanical toys got told they had to “hand them in” and not bring them into the offices ever again.

One story had it that the recordings would record “typing noise” and thus reveal what was being typed…

If there was a recording device then yes this would certainly have been a risk.

Oddly the knowledge about Russia putting recording devices in IBM Selectric Typerwrighters in the US Embassy in Moscow was at best an “open secret” in the UK and Europe, whilst in the US it was still apparently clasified “Way up and beyond the whoosie” (what ever that means 😉

Life gets odd sometimes.

Delos February 6, 2024 3:37 PM

”’ can’t take this FURBY post seriously with such vague sourcing — it’s just empty gossip as presented here

echo February 6, 2024 3:42 PM

Reading through that FOI was an interesting look into bureaucracy and reputation management!

In contrast the New York Times is deleting employees internal Slack messages critical of Pamela Paul’s transphobic disinformation. Employees are complaining about a “hostile work environment”.

https://www.nsa.gov/Press-Room/News-Highlights/Article/Article/3429130/authenticity-and-pride-in-the-workplace-traviss-nsa-journey/

Authenticity and Pride in the Workplace: Travis’s NSA Journey

And:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ny-times-fires-off-warning-to-staffers-after-trans-coverage-brouhaha
NY Times Fires Off Warning to Staffers After Trans Coverage Brouhaha

https://translash.org/transcript-capturing-the-new-york-times/
TRANSCRIPT: ‘Capturing The New York Times’

Presumably the NYT would throw a fit if someone brought a glitter ball into work. In which case email trails of “don’t put it in email” and “shut up” would look condemning.

https://www.nytimes.com/editorial-standards/ethical-journalism.html#ourDutyToOurReaders

The Times treats its readers as fairly and openly as possible. In print and online, we tell our readers the complete, unvarnished truth as best we can learn it. It is our policy to correct our errors, large and small, as soon as we become aware of them.

[…]

Staff members who plagiarize or who knowingly or recklessly provide false information for publication betray our fundamental pact with our readers. We will not tolerate such behavior.

And:

Times readers apply exacting standards to the entire paper. They do not distinguish between staff written articles and those written by outsiders. Thus as far as possible, freelance contributors to The Times, while not its employees, will be held to the same standards as staff members when they are on Times assignments, including those for the Times Magazine. If they violate these guidelines, they will be denied further assignments.

Snort.

You would expect the NSA to be careful because if they’re not people die.

You would expect the media to be careful because if they’re not people die.

One takes the job seriously. The other does not.

Clive Robinson February 6, 2024 4:21 PM

@ Bruce, ALL,

It would apper you can still buy one,

https://shop.hasbro.com/en-us/furby

Also it apparently realy speakes 6502 ASM,

https://archive.org/details/furby-source/mode/1up

And no I’ve not gone through it all.

But even the BBC had a tounge in cheek story at the time,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/254094.stm

Oh and it is funny what people would believe about them (they were programed to say things if you held them upside down for too long).

Some even thought the little cutties could be not just demonic but possessed…

https://www.grunge.com/45738/funniest-scariest-evil-furby-stories/

MK February 6, 2024 4:51 PM

I know Dave Hampton, and have several Furbys. It was a true tour-de-force of mechanical engineering and programming. They never recorded anything. They would respond to another Furby (via infrared link) and sing a lulaby before going to sleep. It’s amazing what a 6502 could do.

echo February 6, 2024 7:10 PM

GCHQ is excluded from FOI requests. You can ask for environmental information but that has a public interest threshold. Subject Data Access Requests have national security exemptions.

This article is old but still relevant.

https://www.ft.com/content/ccc68ffc-7c1e-11e9-81d2-f785092ab560

Five years ago, Rob, a 38-year-old father of two, was fitting kitchens and bathrooms for a living. Now he is a digital spy. As one of GCHQ’s army of cyber analysts, he monitors global counter-intelligence targets in countries he cannot disclose for national security reasons.

[…]

One of the ways GCHQ hopes to attract new hires and convince existing staff to stay is by publicising its willingness to embrace people from a wide range of backgrounds. In 2015, the Cheltenham “doughnut” was lit up in rainbow colours to support the LGBT community, and the agency is trying to recruit more black and Asian staff. It also actively seeks people who class themselves as neurodiverse, with conditions including autism, Asperger’s syndrome and learning difficulties such as dyslexia, dyspraxia or dyscalculia.

Officials believe people with such conditions can approach difficult problems from completely different angles. GCHQ even has a well-established club, the Think Differently group. Its chair, Mike, a senior project manager, says he landed his current role despite being both dyslexic and dyspraxic and having problems with his short-term memory.

Mike says his memory problems can turn routine tasks, such as remembering how to get to a certain meeting room, into an ordeal. But he adds: “I’m great at problem-solving.”

A steady job without getting crap from the boss is a good motivator. Another plus is all these far right leaning states and organisations do is create a workforce more motivated to take them down.

Does he ever feel guilty snooping around someone’s digital profile? “No. Because everything you do is for a reason. I trust in the organisation and the wider government to be correct in that process.”

Steve, a senior security official who sits in on a number of my interviews to ensure no one breaks the UK’s Official Secrets Act, chips in: “People think we’re cowboys and we’re not.”

I cringe to think what’s in mine. It’s one reason why I’d never apply for a job there. I’d die of embarrassment.

&ers February 6, 2024 7:19 PM

@ALL

So the NSA Furby documents ended up on archive.org.

hxxps://archive.org/details/nsa-furby-memo/

Maybe our host can add that link to the posting above?
Original 404media is behind the paywall. Free registration,
sure, but we don’t know when they get hacked and email will leak.
So i used a free disposable email address.

Erdem Memisyazici February 6, 2024 8:23 PM

As a 10 year old kid in Turkey back in 1998 I was excited to put batteries in a Furby for the first time to witness all the amazing things it can learn. A few weeks later my brother and I were very much surprised to see that it ended up speaking English.

lurker February 6, 2024 9:23 PM

@echo

NYT used to be a Journal of Record, but now they’re asking not only that I turn js on, but also turn my adblocker off. Nope, I can get real news elsewhere, and their opinions are now rather stale and boring.

Jelo 117 February 7, 2024 12:42 AM

The toys were part of the long running psych experiment of which Sesame Street was also a part to see how deliberately quirkily ugly something could be made and still be made massively appealing by inclusion of a gimmick novelty of some kind, in this case a technical ome.

echo February 7, 2024 9:39 AM

@lurker

NYT used to be a Journal of Record, but now they’re asking not only that I turn js on, but also turn my adblocker off. Nope, I can get real news elsewhere, and their opinions are now rather stale and boring.

I’ve read Americans saying this before. It’s a bit like The Times. No longer and not for many years post Murdoch ownership. I winced a little when he bought the Wall Street Journal. At least the Financial Times escaped his clutches.

I find the internet unusable without an ad blocker. There’s ways past paywalls too.

Just to show how bad things have got in Tory Britain what with captured regulators full of cronies OFCOM let GB News (affectionately known as KGB News) off the hook for a claim that Covid vaccines caused “turbo cancer” whatever that is.

I understand NYT coverage of Herr Hitler and HIV was atrocious much like the Daily Mail and both are going hard with the transphobia. Even the Atlantic whiffs a bit as their editorial position on HIV and transgender rights have been to, or so they claim, “stimulate discussion”.

I watched an interesting MSM discussion with an ex NSA analyst responding to one of Putin’s keynotes where he declared effective war on transgender people. The journo, bless his socks, had a live and live attitude. The NSA guy was all eh WTF boogle eyed about it before laughing and looked like he thought Putin was a fruitloop. I note experts on Russia have said consistently over a period of time that the unblinking sociopath Putin is using human rights and transgender issues as a geopolitical tool in part to appear sympathetic to GOP headbangers and authoritarian states with regressive attitudes.

The Russian and GOP headbanger and other foreign far right inclined parties connections to the Tory party are known. Security services have remained mute and God knows what their official classified advice to the government is. I know the previous Home Secretary, Braverman, who is an utter headbanger tried to meddle with setting priorities on domestic terrorism and rewrite guidance so the likes of Douglas Murray and Rees-Mogg were not classified as having extreme views. There was some pushback on priorities mostly due to bellyaching over resources otherwise nothing.

As politicians tend to parrot or be influenced by media as if it’s the view of the public I do think it is beholden on the media to get their facts right were it effects decision making

CarpetCat February 12, 2024 1:38 PM

speaking of old electronics, it dazzles my mind that now a days we can just simulate exactly how an old cpu or sound chip would behave, down to the quirks and oddities like the C64.

When you had your hands physically on something and then as time goes by it can be virtually recreated, makes me feel old.

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