Schneier on Security

Clive Robinson • March 6, 2023 11:53 PM

@ Phillip,

Re : Do not assume opposites.

“as with Dominion voting machines. We need to create an environment where companies who do care”

There is no more evidence that Dominion “care”, than there is evidence that they were “deliberately vote rigging”, but the latter does not in any way imply the former.

Arguably they exist somewhere in between, but there was “no evidence presented” that they “care” or if they “do care”, what they might “care for” other than to implicitly make profit for their shareholders as required by law. All in an environment without specified standards or testing required in any meaningful way.

And the court case they have brought against an MSM will be unlikely to present evidence that they “care” only that they did not do what the MSM implied they had done based on the ramblings of a few malcontents at the vote outcome, and an orchestrated series of frivolous law suits brought by Sidney Powel, who has been shown to be very sloppy in her work and earnt the disapprobation of more than one judge.

It needs to be noted that Dominion are not just going after the MSM but about a dozen other entities, nor are Dominion alone in taking the particular MSM to court for defimation or similar. It’s just that Dominion are “first up” to try taking a whack at what some see as the “piñata of the year”.

You can read more from the end of last week at,

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/03/03/fox-unlikely-to-settle-with-dominion-over-election-lies-as-high-stakes-trial-nears-experts-say/

But note nowhere in there is anybody talking about Dominion “caring” about anything other than the claims of defimation.

Clive Robinson • March 10, 2023 4:14 AM

@ Anon,

“A regime like in the US in general (and Biden in particular)”

Oh dear, a factless comment, you really are not thinking are you.

There are firstly many way way worse places from the Pacific West coast through to the East of Europe and down to Australia and South Africa. Then there are one or two in South America as well. Then add in all the off shore and similar mercenary and similar “guns for hire” organisations and mostly the world is a Police State…

Secondly in any democracy with a nominally free press you have the issue of,

“Damed if you do, damed if you don’t”

If sufficient controls are not put in place then activities society think are wrong will prosper.

So society looks down on,

1, Criminal activity.
2, Loss of privacy.

Which do you think society cares most about and by how much, and importantly why?

Well politicians have to make judgment calls on these sort of issues all the time.

In a democracy it’s a case of doing a juggling act whilst tight-rope walking above a firey pit.

In many places it’s easy the person in charge does what they want and those that disagree get persecuted or disappeared.

If you want to disappear to such a place, nobody is realy stopping you.

Clive Robinson • March 10, 2023 7:30 AM

@ Winter

Re : White Russia,

“Last I heard from him he was telling he would move to Belarus soon.”

There is an old joke from the hight of the cold war,

At a science conference three men were standing appart to speaking very animatedly the third with his head slightly canted over listening intently.

The first a veritable bear of a man with dark beard was a white Rusian clearly defending the Russian political system and decrying the decadant capitalist ways of the west.

The second tall and slight in a well cut suite was a Washington university type with button down shirt and a blondish brown moustache, was some what afronted and clearly pushing the libeterian capitalist democracy system and decrying the near police state that was Stalin’s legacy.

The third man finally lifted his head straight and said in a jewish accent, “Gentlemen if I may make an observation?” to which the first two stopped and looked enquiringly at him. He went on “It appears to me that there is in reality little difference between your nations”, at which point the first two looked at him incredulously. So he went on, “as nations you have strong ideals of what is right and what is wrong” which drew nods from the other two. So he went on, “Infact I can tell your morality is such that your leaders chose to lock up what both your nations hold most dear” with a nod to the Rusian he said “With you it is the peoples freedom” and to the Anerican “and you it is your peoples money” with which he nodded and said “Gentlemen, if you will excuse me, I think you have much to discuss” turning he walked slowly away shaking his head sadly.

As a Frenchman once observed,

“The more things change, the more they stay the same…”